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Hector Sants resigned from his position at City watchdog, the Financial Services Authority. He has in the past advocated international and domestic banking reform and criticised the economic proposals of the Conservative party.

The deaths of three British soldiers in Afghanistan over the past two days brings the number of British military personnel killed there to 256 - one more than the number killed during the Falklands war.

A new Populus poll for the Times found support for Labour up two points from last month at 30 percent, while the Conservatives were down one point at 40 percent.

According to a new report, the Treasury does not know why state-owned banks are still not lending money to small businesses.

Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth appeared before the defence select committee this morning answering questions about Afghanistan and the green paper on the future of defence.

Iran is facing new calls for tougher sanctions from Western nations after it announced it has begun enriching uranium to 20%. Experts say this would increase Iran's ability to create a nuclear weapon.

The 27 new members of the European Commision have been unequivocally backed by a majority in an EU vote.

The information commissioner has ruled the party breached privacy laws by making nearly 500,000 automated calls that played a recorded message from a Coronation Street actor before a local election.

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The Corporation revealed that more than a quarter of its salary bill for presenters went on top names including Jonathan Ross and Graham Norton.

The Shadow Defence Secreatry, Liam Fox accepted a £50,000 donation from a venture capitalist who helped buy a company selling defence equipment.

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Fox: We have no option but to stay in Afghanistan

  • 10:06
  • Liam Fox MP
    • 08/11/09
    • Liam Fox MP, Shadow Defence secretary
    • Sunday Live, Sky News

Mr Fox insisted that despite rising casualties and falling public support, Britain had "no option" but to remain in Afghanistan.

"All of this is tied into the wider security of the UK and today of all days we need to understand nobody likes conflict ....but we have occasionally in our history to stand up to those who would fundamentally threaten the safety and wellbeing of our country," he said.

He added: "This is about how are are percieved to deal with fundamental threats, fundamental transnational terror which sooner or later are likely to threaten us".

He insisted that despite polls showing flagging public support for the war, withdrawal would send the wrong message, Britain's enemies.

"If we were seen to be forced out of Afghanistan by public opinion what message would that send to the men of violence? What would it mean in terms of Britain's reputation abroad if we were to unilaterally abandon what is a UN sanctioned mission?" he said.

However he appeared to welcome reports that General McChystal was considering putting UK troops 'out of harm's way'.

"Anything that sees a reduction in the number of British dead and wounded is helpful in terms of public opinion," Mr Fox said.

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crm114
  • 11:34 |
  • 08 Nov 2009
  • 0

What total b*llocks!

A five year old could drive buses through these arguments, especially with some half-decent info

(such as http://www.michaelyon-online.com/michael-s-dispatches/)

Here goes:

The Al Qaeda operatives are in Pakistan, not Afghanistan (says the US military).

One opinion poll, no; but public opinion MUST determine policy in the long run. Dare I point out that this is supposed to be a democracy?

Anyway, the main argument against staying is that there are no clear objectives, which is because almost all clear objectives that have been set have failed to be met. Remember the electrification dam we put so much effort into last year? Three turbines in service by Sep 2009? Currently no new turbines in service and best estimate of due date is 2014. Etc, etc. Never mind the election....

Putting troops "out of harm's way" is exactly what the other European nations (with a couple of exceptions) have been doing, and what all UK parties have been reviling them for. This is because troops who don't fight are both expensive and useless.

Peter Buss
  • 12:21 |
  • 08 Nov 2009
  • 0

There always alternatives, so Liam Fox'x statement is wrong on its very first premise. This is exactly the sort of muddled and unconvincing  justification that has got the Govt into so much trouble in selling this War.Am also very unhappy with the idea that we leave the Ameicans to do the fighting. If as we are told this mission is central to our secuity then we should be fighting for our security. Liam - you really can't have it both ways.

I have thought for some time that Fox is in the wrong job - I would replace him with Patrick Mercer who does sem to know what he is talking about.

 

jack holland
  • 22:21 |
  • 08 Nov 2009
  • 0

Get our lads out NOW, but not in body bags.

Strengthen our borders

Let some of the other nato countries have a go - they obviously are not worried about terrorismn back at their home,

Ross J Warren
  • 14:11 |
  • 09 Nov 2009
  • 0

Until we have secured Afghanistan for the benefit of their once abused women and children will cannot in all good faith leave. I honesty Hate war and bloodshed, but sometimes we are called on to fight an evil foe. This is the case in Afghanistan, not

Only did these Wrong headed people enslave their own families they also destroyed

Buddhist treasures utterly irreplaceable statutes, the work of a very peaceful religion.

Muslims are not our enemy, indeed most of them would agree that Afghanistan’s Taliban have distorted their faith. It would be a tragic mistake to allow the public honestly felt repulsion at the loss of good men’s lives to turn us from our clear mission. Keep up the good work Liam, I for one am utterly behind you.